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CIS’ Andrew Arthur Discusses Immigration Policy with Tucker Carlson « Limits to Growth

CIS’ Andrew Arthur Discusses Immigration Policy with Tucker Carlson

It’s nice to see Tucker Carlson talking about immigration again, something that has fallen off his list of subjects recently. Perhaps he thought President Trump had it covered, even though excessive immigration threatens the historic nature of America.

At any rate, on Friday Tucker interviewed Andrew Arthur, a former judge who is currently affiliated with the Center for Immigration Studies. His CIS bio notes employment with the Immigration and Naturalization Service and eight years working as an immigration judge in Pennsylvania. So Arthur knows the topic from inside the system.

One aspect of this discussion lurking in the background is the preference of Democrats for foreigners over Americans. As it happens, hispanics prefer the Democrat philosophy of Big Government, as shown in a 2012 Pew Research survey. So that correlation of viewpoints works out well for Democrats, but not so much for Americans as a whole.

A Democrat-run government with a President Biden would definitely put immigration on the front burner again — and not in a good way.

TUCKER CARLSON: Welcome back to a special edition of Tucker Carlson Tonight. Republicans were not able to pass any kind of immigration bill restricting immigration, protecting our borders over the past several years, but if Democrats take control of the Senate on January 5th, they won’t be quite as passive. The first thing they will do is to fundamentally change our immigration system — open the borders to the rest of the world. They’re not hiding this; they’ve been open about it for months.

JOE BIDEN (TV clip): Some of it’s going to depend on the kind of cooperation I can or cannot get from the United States Congress, but I am going to make a commitment: in the first hundred days I will send a immigration bill to the United States Senate with a pathway to citizenship for over 11 million undocumented people in America.

CARLSON: First of all it’s not 11 million — you’d have to be 119 years old to think that — it’s over 20 million. But the macro point is this: millions of Americans have been looking for work for so long that they’ve given up looking; they’re not even listed on the unemployment stats. Now Democrats plan to give them more competition in the labor market. So who’s benefiting from this exactly? Not Americans. Andrew Arthur is the Resident Fellow in Law and Policy for the Center of Immigration Studies, and we’re happy to have him on tonight. Andrew, thanks for coming on.

ANDREW ARTHUR: Thank you for having me.

CARLSON: Who does benefit from this exactly?

ARTHUR: Well. the people who benefit from this are big business. Wealthy people benefit from open borders, essentially limitless immigration because for them everything comes cheaper. Food is cheaper; you go to the grocery store, rather than paying you know 39 cents for a head of lettuce, you pay 35 cents for a head of lettuce. You can get your lawn cut cheaper, you can get your house painted cheaper, but the people who suffer the most, Tucker, are the people who are at the margins of society, the people that we you know usually hear that these folks care about — disadvantaged Americans, inner city youth, members of minority groups and immigrants who haven’t adjusted to life in the United States yet. Those are the people who are in direct competition because most of the people who enter the United States illegally are people who don’t have high levels of education, don’t have a lot of work skills. Now there’s nothing you know wrong with that — my father never went to college, worked in a steel mill. But when you bring in a huge mass of uneducated unskilled individuals to directly compete against Americans, those Americans suffer.

CARLSON: And it’s also true at the higher end. I mean our schools were bad before covid; now the schools are just shut down and kids are learning nothing. Nobody seems to care and instead of fixing that, they’ve decided, well we’re just going to bring in more educated people from India and China to do jobs that Americans aren’t qualified to do. I mean it kind of removes any incentive to fix American schools, doesn’t it?

ARTHUR: It really does, and you know there’s this canard that you know we need more STEM graduates. A few years ago the the Census Bureau did a survey in which they found that about 25 percent of people who had STEM degrees were working in a STEM job, and we’ve seen this over and over again. Computer programmers are brought in; IT people are brought in from abroad on temporary visa programs, and even right now the United States Congress is considering a bill that would make it so much easier for Big Tech to bring in those tech workers to replace our students that we encourage to go get tech jobs for the 21st century. Well, those jobs aren’t going to be available to them if this happens. So you know these are things that Americans really need to think about if they have kids, and yes we’ve seen the quality of our own schools go down. We need to be putting more money into educational opportunities, but we also need to have jobs for those students to take. I’ve seen it you know again and again in cities across America.

CARLSON: Only 25 percent of STEM graduates held jobs in STEM in science and technology — that’s an amazing statistic, Andrew Arthur. I appreciate you coming on. Thank you.

And here’s the 2014 Census Bureau survey of STEM graduates and their employment: Census Bureau Reports Majority of STEM College Graduates Do Not Work in STEM Occupations.