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totalitarian Islam – Limits to Growth https://www.limitstogrowth.org An iconoclastic view of immigration and culture Mon, 06 Mar 2017 02:46:13 +0000 en-US hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.3 Geert Wilders Recommends Islam Be Recategorized as Political, Not Religious https://www.limitstogrowth.org/articles/2017/03/05/geert-wilders-recommends-islam-be-recategorized-as-political-not-religious/ Mon, 06 Mar 2017 02:46:13 +0000 https://www.limitstogrowth.org/?p=14829 Dutch politician and freedom fighter Geert Wilders has an unusual but eminently sensible idea, namely that we westerners should reclassify Islam as a totalitarian political system rather than a religion. Treating violent Islam like a normal religion certainly misunderstands the ultimate purpose of the jihad movement, that of world conquest where the entire planet would [...]]]> Dutch politician and freedom fighter Geert Wilders has an unusual but eminently sensible idea, namely that we westerners should reclassify Islam as a totalitarian political system rather than a religion. Treating violent Islam like a normal religion certainly misunderstands the ultimate purpose of the jihad movement, that of world conquest where the entire planet would be run according to repressive misogynous sharia law.

When the jihadists say a world caliphate is their aim, they are serious and dedicated to that goal. Hijrah should be a word more in common usage: it means jihad conquest accomplished through immigration, and the current situation of open borders into and within Europe is absolutely deadly.

Muslim followers see Islam as supplying a wholistic package — no Constitution is needed with the koran in hand!

The koran does have over 100 verses that promote violence as a way to advance the belief: e.g. (Quran 4:76) – “Those who believe fight in the cause of Allah…”

Back to Geert Wilders, he recently sat down with Ezra Levant of Rebel Media for a half-hour chat about various subjects concerning politics and civilization. The whole thing is worth a listen, though I transcribed the section about reimagining Islam which seems particularly important now, when western societies are jumping through hoops to treat Muslims like Methodists. Imagine if Hitler had insisted the Nazi philosophy was actually a new religion, appropriate to modern times — some would have bought into the scam in order to be thought open-minded. Just as foggy liberals today accuse Islam critics of “racism.”

EZRA LEVANT:  (19:40) All across the West, there’s a belief in freedom of religion. Is Islam more than just a religion?

GEERT WILDERS:  Islam is NOT a religion. I know it sounds crazy, and I know I don’t get a lot of support for that idea, but I strongly believe that Islam might be dressed up as a religion: it has a holy book, it has a temple, it looks like a religion, but it’s more an ideology and a totalitarian ideology than a religion. You cannot compare it with Christianity and Judaism, and you should compare it with other totalitarian ideologies like communism or fascism. I always use one example to prove it — there are many more that — like in communism or fascism, the penalty is death if you want to leave it. I mean, you cannot leave Islam: if you are an apostate, if you are a renegade, the penalty is death, and even today in our societies, let alone in the Islamic societies, it is enacted upon, you know people ARE killed for that reason, and you can leave Christianity, you can leave Judaism.

So and the other point is that Islam wants to rule the world — as you know Islam means to subjugate, wants to rule and dominate and subjugate, not only the person’s life but also a whole society. The rule of God, the rule of allah, the rule of the Quran and the Hadith is the rule of the society. I’m not talking about all Muslims, I’m talking about the ideology, and the idea of ideology cannot integrate and assimilate in a society, it wants to dominate it and it wants to subjugate with violence.

The Quran is full of more violence and anti-semitism than Mein Kampf, for instance. People and academics have proved that, so our biggest mistake is, once again, the false equality that we say that Islam is a religion, so they have the freedom of religion. And I believe it’s not religion; it should not be treated as a religion, and the constitutional freedoms of religion do not apply to an ideology. We would not allow in Holland Nazi schools for instance — it’s another totalitarian ideology. Why do we have Islamic schools? Where young children at five, six, seven, eight years old that we want to integrate, get a job, get Dutch friends, participate fully and equally in the Dutch society are being caught up with the Quran and ideology of hate and thought . . .

We should stand up and be tolerant to the people or ideologies that are tolerant to us.

For another discussion of the same subject, see the Breitbart article from Feb 28, Geert Wilders: Islam Is Not a Religion, It’s a Totalitarian Ideology.

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Denmark: Mark Steyn Analyzes the Mohammed Cartoon Crisis in Retrospect https://www.limitstogrowth.org/articles/2015/09/29/denmark-mark-steyn-analyzes-the-mohammed-cartoon-crisis-in-retrospect/ Wed, 30 Sep 2015 03:32:36 +0000 https://www.limitstogrowth.org/?p=12500 This year of 2015 has been a very bad one for free speech, starting with the Charlie Hebdo slaughter in January by jihadists, as Mark Steyn declared in his Copenhagen speech Saturday. In fact, Steyn observed that it has been “a disastrous 10 years” since the original Danish cartoon controversy that began when the newspaper [...]]]> This year of 2015 has been a very bad one for free speech, starting with the Charlie Hebdo slaughter in January by jihadists, as Mark Steyn declared in his Copenhagen speech Saturday. In fact, Steyn observed that it has been “a disastrous 10 years” since the original Danish cartoon controversy that began when the newspaper Jyllands-Posten published 12 editorial cartoons of Mohammed that infuriated Muslims around the world.

On January 7, artists and staff of the satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo were slaughtered in their Paris office by jihadists. Left to right: Jean Cabut (“Cabu”), Stephane Charbonnier (“Charb”), Bernard Verlhac (“Tignous”), Georges Wolinski.

Steyn was one of the speakers at a Copenhagen meeting of the Danish Free Press Society considering the state of freedom over the last decade.

Steyn’s speech covered a lot of important territory in 49 minutes, including the disappearance of Seattle cartoonist Molly Norris into a witness-protection-style existence because she suggested Everyone Draw Mohammed Day. The idea created an event that put her on the Must Kill list of energetic jihadists. It was a moment in 2010 that demonstrated how much freedom America had lost because of Muslim immigration.

Steyn observed that in all the Paris demonstrations for free speech and against the murders of the Charlie Hebdo artists, no political figures held signs showing the offending art, even as they claimed to be one with the artists, as in “Je Suis Charlie Hebdo.” Everybody wanted to feel good about free speech, but self-censorship increased after the Paris jihad murders.

Few in print media displayed the images, although I found a few at the time and posted them, such as the one below from Berlin:

Steyn ended with a rousing call to live as free people in defiance of the jihad murderers: “Live as free people and don’t let the hate speech fairies and the Islamic enforcers — the good cop bad cop of totalitarianism — tell you you are not free.”

Wouldn’t ending Muslim immigration be the most effective strategy to preserve freedom? Muslim immigration has been entirely negative and threatens our entire civilization, yet many of the toughest critics won’t admit that stopping the infusion of poison is vital to saving the body politic.

Other than that important omission, I liked the speech.

Here’s a report about the meeting where Steyn spoke:

Denmark’s free speech conference kept the spirit of Charlie Hebdo alive, by Douglas Murray, Spectator, September 28, 2015

This has been a terrible year for free speech.  In January, after the atrocities in Paris, the whole world was ‘Charlie’, for about an hour.  Then the violence and intimidation did the job they usually do (though we like to pretend otherwise) and by July even Charlie wasn’t Charlie anymore.

So I was delighted earlier this year when the Free Press Society of Denmark asked me if I would be willing to come to Copenhagen this September to take part in a conference to commemorate the 10th anniversary of the original ‘cartoon crisis’.  I have spoken for this excellent group of doughty Danes before, and they have certainly shown more courage than the rest of the European media class combined.  Not that they don’t pay a price for their bravery.  The person who introduced me the last time I spoke for the organisation was the historian and journalist Lars Hedegaard.  A while later a Muslim assassin arrived at his front door and tried to fire two shots at his head.  Lars – who despite being in his 70s is as tough as anything – thankfully survived the attack.

Another founder member, who now heads the Lars Vilks Committee, is Helle Brix. It was her committee who organised the meeting on free speech in February this year that was shot up by an Islamist gunman (I interviewed her for The Spectator after that attack).  In the meantime, there have been countless efforts to attack Jyllands-Posten, the newspaper which carried the original cartoons, and its editor, Flemming Rose, who commissioned the depictions.  Interested readers can watch Flemming and me debating the peacefulness or otherwise of Islam, a few years ago in London here:

Anyhow – Saturday’s event was an important milestone and an important demonstration of force.  As Mark Steyn – who was one of the other speakers at the conference – said, there aren’t many speakers still around from the 5th anniversary event.  So it became even more important to ensure Saturday went well.

The conference was supported by the Danish Ministry of Culture and was hosted in the country’s parliament because this is the only building in Denmark which it is possible to protect from the now traditional arrival of the advance brigade of the Islamic blasphemy police.  The Danish MP who opened the event took care to tell the audience that the parliament’s walls are very thick and strong.  The presence of what seemed to me most of the Danish army seemed to help.  Slightly more disconcertingly, Mark Steyn pointed out that on the day the British Foreign Office was recommending British tourists stay away from the environs of the Danish parliament because of fears that there would be a terrorist attack on our event.  Needless to say the UK Foreign Office didn’t deign to pass this advice on to either Mark (a Commonwealth citizen) or me, but it’s good to know that they alerted British tourists to keep away from us.  Personally I thought we both spoke rather well.

Anyway, it wouldn’t have made a difference, and it was a great thing to see the audience for Saturday’s event sold out many times over.  Audience members I spoke to who defied the Foreign Office’s advice included Spectator readers from Yorkshire, London and Wales, and it was a great sight to see them join the huge contingents from Denmark, Norway and Sweden.  I’ve never felt more proud of any readers.  They gathered first to hear the great German journalist Henryk Broder, who got things off to a slightly gloomy start by predicting that the migration crisis spells the end of Europe.  Then there was Vebjørn Selbekk, one of six Norwegian newspaper editors to publish the Danish cartoon in solidarity who told the less-well known story – and scandal – of the Norwegian cartoon crisis.  I then tried to pick things up a bit by describing what we had learned, or not, over the last ten years.  Mark Steyn rounded things off with a talk appositely titled ‘Last laughs’.  I think we all left a bit more heartened, as well as informed, than when we went in.

I will post the videos of the occasion once they’re available.  My main message for the audience was to keep in mind that freedom has never been particularly popular.  Most people prefer their security and comforts to freedom and although history shows that everyone benefits from being free, it has always been a small minority who actually pursue and protect the cause.  I suppose one has to wrestle whatever comfort one can from that.  It was a terrible thing to see the security now needed in Denmark, as elsewhere, for people who are simply asserting their right to write and draw what they want, even – shock horror – things that might be mildly critical of the founder of one religion.  That a journalist or historian should need bodyguards in 21st century Europe is an indictment on our continent.  But still, surveying the room on Saturday I think we’ve got enough people.  A few Danes, a few Swedes and Norwegians.  A few Americans and a couple of Brits might be all that is needed.  Perhaps by the 15th anniversary things will be better.

Or perhaps not.  One of the stand-out points of the day came from an audience member who was worried about the flow of Muslim migrants into Denmark.  Whichever way you look at it, he pointed out, and however many thousands of migrants Denmark takes in, these will be thousands more people who do not believe Danes have a right to write, draw and publish what they want.  Still, as I’ve pointed out elsewhere, import a new generation with Islamic ideas into an old continent with Christian secular ideas, and what could possibly go wrong?

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